styles himself presidential material. these were back benchers in the senate trying to make a name for themselves off of her. so i wasn't surprised by it, but, look, one other point here, i think when these guys look at the tea party, they still see winners, even though we see them as tremendous losers, they look at what they see as moderates, people like mitt romney, and they see losers. so they feel like the stronger they are, the more that they're forthright with their opinions, they think they're winning. >> that's what i think. back to those meetings and the people in the back row, you really showed her. you showed her. i love the way you went after her. thank you, joy reid, and thank you -- >> have a great weekend. >> -- david corn. you're both smart people obviously, and you're both mostly right here. i think there's a little craziness in here. i don't think it's rational. coincidence in the age of conspiracy? why do so many people believe in conspiracy theories? the fact is the more you know you are less likely to believe in them, except republicans. the more they read papers or watch fox, they're more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. say the word, fox.